tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post9081437988799625615..comments2024-03-26T18:28:06.391-04:00Comments on Evil Editor: New Beginning 319Evil Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03879826770199639420noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-17108663398232140652007-07-21T00:55:00.000-04:002007-07-21T00:55:00.000-04:00Thanks guys. This is the opening for a book I wro...Thanks guys. <BR/><BR/>This is the opening for a book I wrote and shopped several years ago (and posted after EE asked for submissions). The comments have been really interesting, because boredom has never once come up in the past (and thanks to some contests I was able to get Agent feedback on it). <BR/><BR/>I think the difference is the length. I've always known the first 250 words were important, but this really made me realize HOW important.<BR/><BR/>My only other thought, was about the idea of changing language to tighten. I agree that that can be a good tactic, (I live by cutting), but cutting/tightening also changes voice, and sometimes voice is more important than wordiness (look at Robin McKinley!). If the voice doesn't work, that's a different problem. What I got from the comments was that the number one issue is lack of action and content, not voice.<BR/><BR/>Or am I wrong?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-7398181989782038292007-07-20T11:28:00.000-04:002007-07-20T11:28:00.000-04:00Assuming the genre is light contemporary romance, ...Assuming the genre is light contemporary romance, chicklit, romantic comedy, or something like that, this is a good opening. I would keep reading. The irony of fake Jimmy Choos at a shoe sales convention hooked me. <BR/><BR/>Yeah, you could stand to tighten it up some, but the overall effect is good.Bonniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07895569211498067204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-22846560232590172902007-07-20T09:24:00.000-04:002007-07-20T09:24:00.000-04:00"Fake Jimmy Choo mule" worked for me. It brings a ..."Fake Jimmy Choo mule" worked for me. It brings a specific image to mind. I'd expect it's just fine for YA female readers.<BR/><BR/>The commenters are right that you need conflict rather than boredom, though. Better if, say, Gabe's blackmailed her into this rather than she's being nice.<BR/><BR/>I'm assuming that she's about to meet the guy of her dreams...Twillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16254392137759837985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-73932116265637589052007-07-20T01:48:00.000-04:002007-07-20T01:48:00.000-04:00As far as tightening it up, there's something basi...As far as tightening it up, there's something basic you'll need to do. It should you gain more sentence strength, & help the flow. It will also help clarify meaning and isolate imagery or thought.<BR/><BR/>For instance. Re-read that first sentence. You're trying to convey a lot of info.<BR/><BR/>Also, other than the conversation being a bore, what's really going on in her mind to distract her right now?<BR/><BR/>You might want to tell me more of what's going on in her mind than describing all the details of the shoe biz.<BR/><BR/>In addition, recheck for repetition of words. This alone can help tighten your prose.<BR/><BR/>"Rennie damned her Jimmie Choo knock-offs. They were making her bunions hurt like hell."Kananihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317494343177263398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-24195669428104136482007-07-19T17:16:00.000-04:002007-07-19T17:16:00.000-04:00The writing was pretty good, but I'm not sure abou...The writing was pretty good, but I'm not sure about starting with boredom. It doesn't really suck me in.McKoalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01457446171624585099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-52158928234806221792007-07-19T17:07:00.000-04:002007-07-19T17:07:00.000-04:00I agree with Robin S. I think if you started with ...I agree with Robin S. I think if you started with the third paragraph, omitting "to be obliging," you'd have a stronger opening. <BR/><BR/>The opening paragraphs threw a lot of unfamiliar details at me. When that happens, I start to skim. I perked up when I got to the third paragraph. There's a nice little hook in there--makes me want to read on to find out why she's pretending to be her brother's date.AmyBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02636921840451091870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-21874907060318994002007-07-19T13:45:00.000-04:002007-07-19T13:45:00.000-04:00This reads too slowly because the second and third...This reads too slowly because the second and third paragraphs are just backstory. I'm with Robin S.; try to get us into the action faster and fill in the backstory as you go along. <BR/><BR/>Is there any reason to start the story here other than you're trying to find a graceful way to stick in all this (as yet, unnecessary) information? This isn't where the <I>real</I> story starts. <BR/><BR/>I'd suggest trying to find the place where the main character first realises she has a problem to solve, then starting the story at that point. Good luck with it!<BR/><BR/>~Whitemousejjdebenedictishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16950592240599703771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-38230640543541333352007-07-19T12:35:00.000-04:002007-07-19T12:35:00.000-04:00Good ideas in here, and a nice hook. I was intrigu...Good ideas in here, and a nice hook. I was intrigued enough to wish the writing were tighter.<BR/><BR/>Take out the extra words, and change the higher level words for something snappier. Example: the first sentence could start out "Rennie Neves shifted in her fake Jimmy Choos, trying to ..." <BR/><BR/>You don't need to tell us Jimmy Choos are a kind of shoe - if it's all that important we'll figure it out. Try is more immediate than attempt. Tighten every sentence this way and this opening will come alive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-31024610962314506132007-07-19T12:01:00.000-04:002007-07-19T12:01:00.000-04:00Hi RT,I think this piece would work well if you st...Hi RT,<BR/><BR/>I think this piece would work well if you started it with the third paragraph, and took out "to be obliging" at the start of the first sentence.<BR/><BR/>Then you could work in the other information as the story unfolded.<BR/><BR/>Just a thought.Robin S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03258459688300851984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-29528917613578867072007-07-19T11:39:00.000-04:002007-07-19T11:39:00.000-04:00I think it's a fun start. Much more detail of the ...I think it's a fun start. Much more detail of the numbing conversations would kill it, but I like it as is. Must be a very light comedy or romantic comedy since the coworkers will find out, if they don't already know, the sibling relationship. The opening set me up for that frame of mind quickly, and I appreciate that.<BR/><BR/>Tightening this opening would help it, but I would have read more. Consider showing a snippet of dialogue and interaction to let readers see for ourselves what they're talking about. Might get readers involved quicker. <BR/><BR/>Best of luck with this.Bump in the Nighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09437838211195008105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-11476778650341955242007-07-19T11:03:00.000-04:002007-07-19T11:03:00.000-04:00I'm with Bernita. The trouble with describing bori...I'm with Bernita. The trouble with describing boring meetings and bored characters is that they are boring. <BR/>This needs some jokes or a murder or seriously fashionable shoe faux pas... Or maybe just a piddling pomeranian puddling the auctioneer's shoes. Something, anything to lift it from the dreadful boredom of "how to sell golf shoes."Dave Fragmentshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985158361431606939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-81243509193543100562007-07-19T10:19:00.000-04:002007-07-19T10:19:00.000-04:00She's bored - but so am I.The writing is relativel...She's bored - but so am I.<BR/>The writing is relatively clean but the most interesting thing is in the last two sentences.Bernitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05264585685253812090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-41835587438355313742007-07-19T09:20:00.000-04:002007-07-19T09:20:00.000-04:00Continuation: Eewww!!! LOL!Opening--Sorry. I wasn'...Continuation: Eewww!!! LOL!<BR/>Opening--Sorry. I wasn't pulled in at all. I can't offer much, except that it reads like the middle of a chapter to me.Chris Eldinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794946908789120139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-61770814001634122082007-07-19T08:23:00.000-04:002007-07-19T08:23:00.000-04:00Unchosen Continuations:Ahhh, who was she kidding? ...Unchosen Continuations:<BR/><BR/>Ahhh, who was she kidding? It's fashion, baby! she reminded herself; they love those weird family relations. <BR/><BR/>Now, if only they knew she was really Gabe's brother, then the night would be full. <BR/><BR/>--Khazar-khum<BR/><BR/><BR/>And if they ever found out about the sex change, her brother's chance of ever being Deputy Area Manager of the Junior Department of Sub Area 8 East would be completely over. <BR/><BR/>--McKoalaEvil Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03879826770199639420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-44152830601440623962007-07-19T08:16:00.000-04:002007-07-19T08:16:00.000-04:00Oh, that continuation is just sick! LOL, though.....Oh, that continuation is just sick! LOL, though...<BR/><BR/>AFter reading this opening, I am left with the impression of boredom and shoes. I think you can tighten this up significantly, because it's just lead in so far.writtenwyrddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02280711822302493122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-14765779536631481182007-07-19T07:51:00.000-04:002007-07-19T07:51:00.000-04:00Good twist!Good twist!Taliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08021644688776666185noreply@blogger.com