tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post1876805488017803807..comments2024-03-26T18:28:06.391-04:00Comments on Evil Editor: New Beginning 551Evil Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03879826770199639420noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-31281554711097961862008-09-14T20:20:00.000-04:002008-09-14T20:20:00.000-04:00Dave, I've been looking at this pretty closely and...Dave, I've been looking at this pretty closely and the only chapters I can really afford to chop do have important information in them. I haven't found a way to seamlessly introduce the information yet, but that doesn't mean it can't be done.<BR/><BR/>The problem with a complex plotline and mystery is so many clues are planted along the way it's hard to decide which one you can get rid of.<BR/><BR/>I think mainly I just need to judiciously prune line-by-line.Julie Weathershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13725236516593676381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-58923703616798511052008-09-14T20:14:00.000-04:002008-09-14T20:14:00.000-04:00Chris this is one of the best openings I have seen...Chris this is one of the best openings I have seen in a very long time. You've had EE, the minions and Lady Janet comment on it so there is nothing more I could add of worth. However, I did want to say how much I enjoy this.Julie Weathershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13725236516593676381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-13666757924817134872008-09-14T15:38:00.000-04:002008-09-14T15:38:00.000-04:00Also regarding book length. JK Rowling's first Har...Also regarding book length. <BR/>JK Rowling's first Harry Potter - the Philosopher's Stone - is the shortest book in the trilogy. The final book is so long they are making it into two movies just to tie up all the loose ends from the previous six books.Dave Fragmentshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985158361431606939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-47609541835964889822008-09-14T15:36:00.000-04:002008-09-14T15:36:00.000-04:00Regarding Tolkein's Trilogy, if you pay attention ...Regarding Tolkein's Trilogy, if you pay attention to the movie, you can see where the adaptation left about half of the words in the three novels. <BR/><BR/>In <I>Fellowship</I>, Tom Bombadill is left out of the movie. he accounts for many words that are not essential to the story but only add color. <BR/><BR/>In <I>Return of the King</I>, the movie drops the final chapters on the Harrowing of the Shire and a bunch of rigmarole that adds another chapter. <BR/><BR/>One might say that Tolkien didn't have to write those chapters or include them in the trilogy. But that's backseat driving, hindsight and pure retro-vision.Dave Fragmentshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985158361431606939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-43170475227596284902008-09-14T09:28:00.000-04:002008-09-14T09:28:00.000-04:00"I had this same conversation with Tolkien. Finall..."I had this same conversation with Tolkien. Finally got him to split the first book of his trilogy and make a separate book called the Hobbit. Worked fine for him."<BR/><BR/>You made me laugh. Truly you are all knowing.Julie Weathershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13725236516593676381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-11602166642584704122008-09-14T08:52:00.000-04:002008-09-14T08:52:00.000-04:00Hmm, if you had this conversation with Tolkien, EE...Hmm, if you had this conversation with Tolkien, EE, you're a little older than I thought.Stacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365582623380288038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-7823193863721204322008-09-14T07:59:00.000-04:002008-09-14T07:59:00.000-04:00I had this same conversation with Tolkien. Finally...I had this same conversation with Tolkien. Finally got him to split the first book of his trilogy and make a separate book called the Hobbit. Worked fine for him.Evil Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03879826770199639420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-59147608497937296332008-09-14T01:42:00.000-04:002008-09-14T01:42:00.000-04:00If it's a trilogy, each book should be approximate...If it's a trilogy, each book should be approximately 87,824 words. If it's a stand-alone I don't see how you could call it epic if it weren't about 110,000.<BR/><BR/>Good grief. I'm not even sure it's possible to get it down to 87,824 words unless I cut it in half. What if it's a quadilogy?Julie Weathershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13725236516593676381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-89189113118114748952008-09-14T01:04:00.000-04:002008-09-14T01:04:00.000-04:00If it's a trilogy, each book should be approximate...If it's a trilogy, each book should be approximately 87,824 words. If it's a stand-alone I don't see how you could call it epic if it weren't about 110,000.Evil Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03879826770199639420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-12586461713992832802008-09-14T00:03:00.000-04:002008-09-14T00:03:00.000-04:00Actually, I do have a question. What would you con...Actually, I do have a question. What would you consider an acceptable word count for epic fantasy?Julie Weathershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13725236516593676381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-69411711855367960492008-09-13T23:55:00.000-04:002008-09-13T23:55:00.000-04:00"Ah you have a question you feel only an editor of..."Ah you have a question you feel only an editor of epic fantasy can answer. By now you should know EE knows all about everything."<BR/><BR/>Actually, I was wondering how much Janet was paying for minions. However, after due consideration I realize I could only be your minion. Even if you hated fantasy I would still be yours.<BR/><BR/>You lucky guy.Julie Weathershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13725236516593676381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-25892857583538175012008-09-13T23:47:00.000-04:002008-09-13T23:47:00.000-04:00Ah you have a question you feel only an editor of ...Ah you have a question you feel only an editor of epic fantasy can answer. By now you should know EE knows all about everything.Evil Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03879826770199639420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-90766938557508112312008-09-13T23:20:00.000-04:002008-09-13T23:20:00.000-04:00Janet Reid is buying minions? What's the going pri...Janet Reid is buying minions? What's the going price for minions these days?<BR/><BR/>EE, do you ever publish fantasy? Epic fantasy?Julie Weathershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13725236516593676381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-74767254085336502912008-09-13T15:55:00.000-04:002008-09-13T15:55:00.000-04:00I was just about to get busy with EE Shorts, but s...I was just about to get busy with EE Shorts, but stopped here first.<BR/><BR/>Thank you everybody for taking the time to comment!! It means a lot!<BR/><BR/>Dave, I like your suggestion, but I haven't done it yet. I want to see if I can incorporate without losing the cadence I have. <BR/>And the Greek Chorus still cracks me up....<BR/><BR/>:-)Chris Eldinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794946908789120139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-1901872519196512982008-09-13T09:28:00.000-04:002008-09-13T09:28:00.000-04:00If it were me, I'd start with Chipping Camden firs...If it were me, I'd start with Chipping Camden first, then the businessman. I'm assuming Chipping Camden is the main character.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-49839863531471166662008-09-13T00:42:00.000-04:002008-09-13T00:42:00.000-04:00I normally don't read anything that adult, but my ...I normally don't read anything that adult, but my sense is, the writer has a good future. This is very well done. And as we know from J.K. Rowling's experience, mature adult fiction can do very well in the market place. Tell him (or is it her?) very best of luck.Steve Stubbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10051363877066768708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-43262517924939647732008-09-12T21:31:00.000-04:002008-09-12T21:31:00.000-04:00Well, I assumed initially that there was one mouse...Well, I assumed initially that there was one mouse, whose tail was squished, and the rest were people. But all the comments confused me. (It's not an uncommon situation, mind.)writtenwyrddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02280711822302493122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-10822605025693241232008-09-12T20:14:00.000-04:002008-09-12T20:14:00.000-04:00Well, Mr. Esquire is a lawyer, so he'd have to be ...Well, Mr. Esquire is a lawyer, so he'd have to be a rat.<BR/><BR/>The businessman might be a pack rat.talpiannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978075304795724185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-18948199994716159762008-09-12T19:50:00.000-04:002008-09-12T19:50:00.000-04:00EE, Janet Reid's giving you grief (on BookRoast) a...<I>EE, Janet Reid's giving you grief (on BookRoast) about having minions. Says she wants to buy some minions in New York.</I><BR/><BR/>Hey, I can be bought! Ooh, I could be a double minion - like a double agent. Playing editor and agent off one another... Oh, drat. Don't need a double agent to do that, do you?<BR/><BR/>Chris: I'm just waiting until more people have their say about the NB, then I'll come along and side with the majority and lament how everyone else said it before I did.Phoenix Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03290349031002504007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-91388712837147932512008-09-12T19:43:00.000-04:002008-09-12T19:43:00.000-04:00one mouse, everyone else is human.is it really con...one mouse, everyone else is human.<BR/><BR/>is it really confusing? I need to work on this...Chris Eldinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794946908789120139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-43009346943952039602008-09-12T19:29:00.000-04:002008-09-12T19:29:00.000-04:00Okay, after reading the entries more carefully, I ...Okay, after reading the entries more carefully, I am confused. Are all the characters mice, then? We definitely need pictures. That would fix all confusion.writtenwyrddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02280711822302493122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-89100724129835548212008-09-12T19:28:00.000-04:002008-09-12T19:28:00.000-04:00Ah, couldn't figure out if he was supposed to be a...Ah, couldn't figure out if he was supposed to be a man, or if it was a community of mice.<BR/><BR/>Nevermind then ; )Kiersten Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05780265683043033609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-54038075608371227912008-09-12T19:13:00.000-04:002008-09-12T19:13:00.000-04:00Oh believe me, I had a lot more drafted out which ...Oh believe me, I had a lot more drafted out which I deleted (and you should be glad).<BR/><BR/>wwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-66178545193108525202008-09-12T19:02:00.000-04:002008-09-12T19:02:00.000-04:00This is a great beginning. Cute!The continuation m...This is a great beginning. Cute!<BR/><BR/>The continuation made me laugh.Stacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365582623380288038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-61599844760843659412008-09-12T17:20:00.000-04:002008-09-12T17:20:00.000-04:00I thought this was quite cute and well-written, al...I thought this was quite cute and well-written, although I'd echo some of the man/mouse/size confusion. Mister Esquire had a mouse-sized cane? So does that mean Mr. Esquire is a full fledged human with a toothpick cane? A bit of clarification would be nice. Enjoyed this.EBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14361825595951678685noreply@blogger.com