tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post7501047220423647379..comments2024-03-18T13:32:44.865-04:00Comments on Evil Editor: New Beginning 1019Evil Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03879826770199639420noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-11596313657916053722014-04-02T05:08:34.293-04:002014-04-02T05:08:34.293-04:00American high school wrestlers have to pass both a...American high school wrestlers have to pass both a weight and hydration test in the modern system. I had considered the water/diluting trick, because I've heard of kids who've tried this, usually unsuccessfully. The specific gravity is rather hard to measure by eye especially if the initial sample is too concentrated, as the character's will be. In fact, two paragraphs further in the character comments how the toilet water has been dyed blue to prevent the athletes from dipping water into their specimen cups to dilute their samples.<br /><br />Two of my sons wrestle at the elite level--as disgusting as this scene is, it's not an unheard of trick in that community. I'm really trying to establish the lengths the character will go to in order to compete at his desired weight. Hopefully the reader will sense his determination. Thanks for the comments.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18159799725109784001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-27176288451240259112014-03-31T22:37:01.397-04:002014-03-31T22:37:01.397-04:00I looked it up on the internet. For high school, w...I looked it up on the internet. For high school, wrestlers must maintain 7% body fat. The BMI test can be fooled by dehydration—according to one blogger. He recommended drinking a lot of water—but not urinating before the test--then sweat off several pounds. The weight will go down and the urine will show a low specific gravity. <br /><br />But why not just hold water in one’s mouth and spit it into the cup to dilute the urine?<br /><br />Anyway, the first page is much better and it's well written. I’d read more just to find out what happens. As for the method, … well, teens get goofy ideas all the time.<br />Mister Furkleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07156977719916770984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-53421917941351566672014-03-31T16:52:15.497-04:002014-03-31T16:52:15.497-04:00I remember not understanding your opening the firs...I remember not understanding your opening the first time I read it. I wrestled back when they used stones as a measure of weight. Wrestling was a balance between starving/dehydration to make weght and loss of power and endurance. No one cared about hydration as long as you made weight. There was a lag time of 45-60 minutes between weigh-in and wrestling on the JV team and 1-2 hours on Varsity. That was plenty of time to scarf sugar and juice to replace energy and water loss.<br />I know things have changed-everyone w/o grey hair keeps reminding me, but most sports rules remain the same. <br /><br />Is this some sort of dystopian Pro-wrestling League?Kreggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07229620504046221727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-83371060198060889312014-03-31T15:15:22.148-04:002014-03-31T15:15:22.148-04:00I don't understand why he has urine in his mou...I don't understand why he has urine in his mouth. I assumed wrestlers merely had to establish their weight class and drug-freeness. Apparently you can't wrestle if you aren't hydrated enough? Or are too hydrated? And he plans to spit the urine into the cup because they test his urine to see how hydrated he is? Was he running on the treadmill to affect his hydration as well? <br /><br />It seems less explanation would be needed if he had urine in his mouth because he knew his own urine would show he'd been using drugs.Evil Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03879826770199639420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-81687208075137123762014-03-31T14:56:02.930-04:002014-03-31T14:56:02.930-04:00Revised Opening:
If you asked one hundred people...Revised Opening:<br /><br /><br />If you asked one hundred people if piss tastes nasty no doubt ninety-nine would say: “Hell yes!” I’m undecided. But I haven’t had a drink in two days and I’m not exactly thinking straight. Which explains why my mouth is full of urine. I struggle between the need to swallow and the urge to puke. Either happens and my wrestling season is over before I even step onto the mat.<br /> <br />“Let’s go boys,” the trainer calls. He’s usually gone by six and we’ve pushed it to the limit.<br /> <br />Two of my teammates also failed yesterday’s hydration test. We’re up for the third, and final, weight certification inspection. We’d normally hustle, but, after running ten miles on the school’s treadmills, we mostly shamble. The locker room’s mirrors reflect sharp cheekbones, knobby knees, and eight-pack abs. I clutch my suddenly-too-big shorts and step with as much strength as I can summon.<br /> <br />Ahead of me Boyle and Garcia take their specimen cups and teeter off to the toilets. I straggle along, cup in hand, fighting my gag reflex. Trainers can’t enter the stalls with us, but they’re close enough to eliminate any privacy. Authornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-40343543482020930042013-11-27T18:14:59.528-05:002013-11-27T18:14:59.528-05:00Yeah, colour me confused too.
When I first read ...Yeah, colour me confused too. <br /><br />When I first read it I thought the fellow was a contestant on one of those weird Japanese extreme endurance-type tv shows and his challenge was to fill a bucket with liquid using only his mouth as a vessel after a few fluid-free days. Or something. That he was cheating on a test was not immediately apparent to me.<br /><br />But if you made it clearer, IMO it would be a risky opeing gambit to introduce your MC carrying a mouthful of pee. Some readers (ok, like me) might not get past that sort of ick factor.<br /><br />I'm wondering why he has to tell himself to not swallow - my challenge in that situation would be to not heave (regardless of how thirsty I was). <br /><br />Nevertheless, for those who can get past the ick, it sounds like he's an interesting MC, prepared to go to great lengths to achieve his ambition. Always an intriguing hook. Jo-Ann Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18027989147411624378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-52305857762366776072013-11-27T13:32:07.028-05:002013-11-27T13:32:07.028-05:00I agree with Dave. I wasn't sure what was goin...I agree with Dave. I wasn't sure what was going on. I think with a little editing and rewording, it will make more sense.CavalierdeNuithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09862976676163347369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-44433605648895235972013-11-27T10:18:41.022-05:002013-11-27T10:18:41.022-05:00Now I understand what is happening. The test is of...Now I understand what is happening. The test is of electrolytes in the urine to determine the wrestler's hydration. <br /><br />I think I agree with your group. It might only change a word of two in the entire opening. You don't have to explain it, you just have to reveal it as the dodge (or cheat) it is. <br /><br />I've often said that most of these opening only need minimal changes - like two or three words or a half dozen at most. Dave Fragmentshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217202416002233005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-36326187769075201362013-11-27T09:15:26.753-05:002013-11-27T09:15:26.753-05:00Thanks for the comments. The piss test is for hydr...Thanks for the comments. The piss test is for hydration. The MC knows he'll fail so his mouth is filled with a teammate's....urine. My critique group tells me I should reveal this in the first couple of sentences, so the revision likely will. Still just a WIP but it feels promising to me.<br /><br />I read one sentence of the continuation and knew Whirlochre had waved his magic fingers. Thanks for the laugh.<br /><br />Best and thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18159799725109784001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-37259352986871577702013-11-27T08:44:33.864-05:002013-11-27T08:44:33.864-05:00They did the spitting thing with a glass so they k...They did the spitting thing with a glass so they kept losing weight and making a lower weight class.Charles Flaumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-8935994811063500102013-11-27T03:39:42.228-05:002013-11-27T03:39:42.228-05:00O my Whirlocre! I can't stop laughing.O my Whirlocre! I can't stop laughing.CavalierdeNuithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09862976676163347369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-55465224063493672632013-11-27T00:29:19.006-05:002013-11-27T00:29:19.006-05:00Surprise, a New Beginning appears.
When I first ...Surprise, a New Beginning appears. <br /><br />When I first read this it was a struggle to get through until I realized that it was a HS or college wrestler. I didn't understand what the liquid filled mouth was because most of those wrestlers were not like gymnasts but skinny sort of dudes - all skin and bones - and they tried to lose weight. Water was weight so they didn't drink lots on match days. They did the spitting thing with a glass so they kept losing weight and making a lower weight class. <br /><br />So all of this opening seemed wrong to me and confusing. I didn't recognize what the narrator was talking about fast enough. <br /><br />I also didn't realize that the urine test was for something other than hydration. I think you should fix that and make it apparent that the narrator is a wrestler at a weigh in preparation for meeting his weight class AND that this is also a drug test for whatever drugs.Dave Fragmentshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217202416002233005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-39742194415122246192013-11-26T22:31:53.672-05:002013-11-26T22:31:53.672-05:00Unchosen continuations:
When Boyle backed out of...Unchosen continuations:<br /><br /><br />When Boyle backed out of the WC with the biggest piece of wood I'd ever seen-- I gasped, choked, and then quit breathing after inhaling the liquid (is that spit?) in my mouth. <br /> <br />As blackness closed over the edges of my vision, a trainer leaned over me as I lay on my back, and said, "Too stupid to swallow, too stupid to breathe, and she can't hit the cup. What a shame. Put your bra on and get back to the cheer squad."<br /> <br />Everything went black.<br /> <br />--Kregger<br /><br /><br />I vomit a little as I think about the obnoxious bumper sticker that made me get into hang gliding: "Warning: Hang Glider Looking at Clouds". If only I hadn't signed up to hang glide around the world, because now I'm shivering in shorts in Patagonia, and engaging in some kind of hang gliding bodily fluid projection contest. I have no idea who I am anymore. <br /><br />--CavalierdeNuitEvil Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03879826770199639420noreply@blogger.com