tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post3028908465438722180..comments2024-03-26T18:28:06.391-04:00Comments on Evil Editor: Synopsis 35Evil Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03879826770199639420noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-76054045125700992762013-01-17T17:56:53.680-05:002013-01-17T17:56:53.680-05:00Updike, I'll go further than Kelsey: You shoul...Updike, I'll go further than Kelsey: You <i>shouldn't</i> answer questions that minions ask in comments. It's a misdirection of your energy. None of the minions is going to represent or publish your manuscript.<br /><br />Instead, direct your energy to revising so that those questions are no longer raised.AlaskaRavenclawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-85298293030880735922013-01-17T16:45:04.310-05:002013-01-17T16:45:04.310-05:00Or you could read the book and tell me if you like...Or you could read the book and tell me if you like it.John C. Updikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14717474679247050793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-58387469040058673252013-01-17T16:40:45.641-05:002013-01-17T16:40:45.641-05:00Posting anything that resembles a polished synopsi...Posting anything that resembles a polished synopsis is going to give me the satisfaction of knowing it's a good one. I won't de-value that experience.<br /><br />After that, I have a polished synopsis. <br /><br />I have been rejected by zero agents because I have found zero agents. I hardly think submitting the first sentence of a story is going to work very well. <br /><br />So the advice I've received is quite useful. <br />John C. Updikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14717474679247050793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-67620712256080140982013-01-17T16:35:51.847-05:002013-01-17T16:35:51.847-05:00You don't have to answer every question EE'...You don't have to answer every question EE's minions raise in the comments, but clarifying the major conflict, stakes, what the MC's goal is, and what their choices are which force major plot points can help us make suggestions on how to make the dramatic, compelling, unique parts of your story stand out better in a query or synopsis. <br /><br />Stakes are important to include upfront because they give the reader a reason to care, a reason to spend $17.99 on your book and multiple hours to read through to the end. Stakes give a novel urgency. They make the reader want to know what happens next--which (I'm guessing, though I don't write the genre) is particularly important in mystery. This is why knowing what Jay has to lose right from the onset might help a prospect agent/reader go from, "Hmm...maybe" to "I need to read this NOW."<br /><br />If the scammer is a villain who in the end tries to kill Jay before Jay can foil his plan (or maybe tries to kill Carmella) that's a good example of telling us what's at stake.<br /><br />And believe me--I'm definitely NOT recommending more vampires!<br /><br />Again, feel free to post a revised synopsis in the comments. Good luck.Kelseynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-73248279307039569152013-01-17T16:02:13.945-05:002013-01-17T16:02:13.945-05:00To John...
It's up to you.
Some submit a revis...To John...<br />It's up to you.<br />Some submit a revised version of their synopsis for EE and the minions to mock... I mean critique. Others note the main points for their own reference. I strongly suggest that you check through the archives and see what you think of the original queries and the comments. <br /><br />You're trying to break into an industry that's very competitive. I've learnt that actually finishing a novel is just the first step. The next step is to get your manuscript to stand out amongst the thousands of others. Agents/ editors have many to choose from and only so many hours in the day. If a query/ synopsis doesn't immediately grab them, they're not going to give it a second chance. It sucks I know, but that's the reality.<br /><br />So, yes, you are totally correct to say that it's an art form. Like any art form, it takes practice to master. <br /><br />You've spent hours on your manuscript. Now you need to put it forward in the best possible light. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-66838751015558521092013-01-17T13:53:42.848-05:002013-01-17T13:53:42.848-05:00So, am I expected to answer that in this reply or ...So, am I expected to answer that in this reply or is it a rhetorical question that needs to be answered in a synopsis? <br /><br />What's at stake would have to be established in the story, I suppose. Otherwise, I think I'd have run out of steam for finishing it. <br /><br />(Man, these little robot control codes are really tough to read.)<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />John C. Updikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14717474679247050793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-20689311454118682592013-01-17T13:23:29.964-05:002013-01-17T13:23:29.964-05:00We're talking What's at stake? If his goal...We're talking What's at stake? If his goal is to learn who scammed everyone, what happens to him, to the ghosts, if he fails? Does finding the scammer bring peace to the ghosts? Is his goal to find the ghosts peace? If so, it seems like he should sell the hotel property and use the money to complete the annex. <br /><br />In a James Bond novel, the whole world may be at stake. In The Wizard of Oz, getting home is the stakes. What's at stake for Jay?Evil Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03879826770199639420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-37834812860546407652013-01-17T12:07:44.505-05:002013-01-17T12:07:44.505-05:00I'd say the conflict, as such, connects to the...I'd say the conflict, as such, connects to the frustration over learning who was the evil person who denied them the right to find that peace. Naturally, following those trails ... well, the people who know are all dead, even if he asks them about it. One day they say one thing, the next day, something else. They have no retentive memory, being that they are dead. And there's evidence of a scam that somebody took the money and ran.<br /><br />The Carmella connection is important to the story though I suppose the synopsis doesn't make that clear. Again, learning to do a synopsis ... it appears that hasn't been one of my better skills.<br /><br />As an aside, there is a connection between two very real events in my life that made this story work. You'd need to visit my website (fairfieldindiana.com) to get a sense of that. These are, with embellishments, real people from my real life. <br /><br />I suppose it's why I finally decided to go looking for a serious publisher. I have a few other marginally interesting novels, but none this important to me. Having the same name as a more famous author is not a bonus, btw. But it is my real name and I weary of the "did you know there is ..." (Yeah, I did, but my parents didn't when they named me.) <br /><br />I am not sure I need to usurp the reply line this much but it seems the questions are worth answering. <br /><br />Please define "stakes." Are we talking vampires, or landmarks? <br /><br />-- JohnJohn C. Updikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14717474679247050793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-28728686755568476422013-01-17T10:59:19.597-05:002013-01-17T10:59:19.597-05:00Hi author,
Brava on wanting to take the next step...Hi author,<br /><br />Brava on wanting to take the next step to getting published. It's a long, hard road, I hear.<br /><br />For some constructive criticism--<br /><br />I second Anon 4:25's comment about needing stakes. (It might be that your story has stakes but they were left out of the synopsis, or that this would affect the content of your story). <br /><br />What is the major conflict in the novel? Right now it sounds like Jay learns that if he rehabs the hotel, the Old Ones would be able to find peace. Which then you say is his incentive to rehab it, which makes it sound like Jay's just a nice guy. But to carry a story, your MC needs to face more obstacles. What's getting in the way of his rehab plans? What's compelling him to help the ghosts, MORE than just the goodness of his heart? What terrible thing will happen if he DOESN'T succeed in releasing their souls? <br /><br />My other major suggestion is showing why the love subplot with Carmella exists. As it is, you could take her out of the synopsis and nothing else would change--which isn't a good sign. Is her grandmother one of the ghosts? Does Carmella somehow have the secret to releasing their souls? Does Carmella want Jay to move to Florida with her and forget the ghosts (thus giving Jay conflicting goals)? If something's in the story, it should matter.<br /><br />That all said, best of luck in your revisions. I have a soft spot for abandoned hotels, myself.Kelseynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-8923016970909775082013-01-17T00:17:54.692-05:002013-01-17T00:17:54.692-05:00Thanks for this.
I labored over the synopsis for...Thanks for this. <br /><br />I labored over the synopsis for a long time and it didn't come without research. Still, it appears to be more of an art form than writing the book! <br /><br />Let me run the query through the same process. <br /><br />Again, thanks.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />John C. Updikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14717474679247050793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-1182191557964949042013-01-16T22:29:00.008-05:002013-01-16T22:29:00.008-05:00Here's what's needed: "Jay Hughes has...Here's what's needed: "Jay Hughes has been deeded an abandoned building in his old home town of Fairfield"<br /><br />Later, you say it's a hotel, so:<br /><br />"Jay Hughes has been deeded an abandoned hotel in his old home town of Fairfield"<br /><br />You have to be succint in a synopsis and that means conserving words.<br /><br />Leave out things like: "Mulling his problems" and "a few pigeons and a lot of dusty memories." You don't have room for these things in a synopsis. That's where you have to try to describe as much of what happens in a novel as possible in a very short space.<br /><br />Here's an example:<br /><br />"Arthur Dent is rescued from Earth moments before it's destroyed by the Vogons to make room for an interstellar bypass. His rescuer is his best friend, Ford Prefect, an alien who gets them a ride on the Vogon ship. When the Vogons discover they have stowaways, they eject Ford and Arthur but both are picked up by the spaceship Heart of Gold, which has been stolen by the President of the Galaxy, Zaphod Beeblebrox. Arthur is stunned to learned that not only are Ford and Zaphod related, there's someone else on board that Arthur knows-a human girl who calls herself Trillian. <br /><br />"All of these coincidences are related to the ship's unusual method of propulsion, called The Infinite Improbability Drive, that makes the Heart of Gold the fastest ship in existence."<br /><br />And so forth. Basically, you're cramming a whole novel onto one page.<br /><br />If you mean to write a query instead, I'd suggest you read the Face-Lift posts that are for adult non-humorous fiction so you'll know what tone to give your query. If you send it back here we can look at it.St0n3hengehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08504412781917592790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-90291618632561476852013-01-16T21:24:42.238-05:002013-01-16T21:24:42.238-05:00Ha! No, it's not a gruesome zombie tale. These...Ha! No, it's not a gruesome zombie tale. These are lovable dead people. <br /><br />Truthfully, I have written a few novels but rarely endeavored to see about getting them published. So I am not all that versed in synopsis.<br /><br /> Not sure what I'd put in this forum reply that clarifies it ... these are all people the protagonist knew as a young person and he knows they are all dead. But they are in spirit, still alive inside this abandoned hotel that he eventually begins to rehab. Eventually he learns that his reason for being there is connected to their eternal peace, which is incentive to do the rehab work. <br /><br />The Old Ones are indeed supposed to go home together. There's a plan that explains all that. As I responded, the EE comments are worth it because I can recraft the synopsis. <br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />John C. Updikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14717474679247050793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-11272580862772107662013-01-16T21:24:30.317-05:002013-01-16T21:24:30.317-05:00You need a query letter to get an agent. The query...You need a query letter to get an agent. The query letter will include a short synopsis, maybe 10 sentences at most, and will also tell the agent what your genre is, your word count, any impressive credits you have as a writer or in the field you're writing about. It should all fit on one page. There are almost 1100 query letters on this blog. They're titled "Face-Lift."<br /><br />If your query letter is good enough to convince an agent she might be able to sell your book, she'll request pages. She might also request a synopsis, in which case you'll want to have improved yours.Evil Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03879826770199639420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-26314368510740896922013-01-16T18:14:47.470-05:002013-01-16T18:14:47.470-05:00In any case, this is the first real feedback I'...In any case, this is the first real feedback I've ever gotten about writing a synopsis. So for that, thanks. Now, will you help me find an agent?John C. Updikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14717474679247050793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-89843040956575690142013-01-16T16:25:14.253-05:002013-01-16T16:25:14.253-05:00Oooh, I like Zeke Martin, and wait to hear more ab...Oooh, I like Zeke Martin, and wait to hear more about what he doesn't know...<br /><br />To the author, I know it's tough to cram the exciting plot points into 250 odd words (very odd in some cases) and I know I haven't mastered the art yet, but may I suggest you do everything EE says? Your plot sounds like Jay has somehow inherited a hotel that's a half-way house for ghosts with consumer rights issues. Which is interesting and novel (I'd like to read about that)...but is just set up and not a story in itself.<br /> <br />There's nothing stopping him from turning his back on the ghosts and returning to his regular life. Or if there is, it needs to be highlighted (maybe he's on the run?). Stakes, you see.<br /><br />Maybe the Old Ones need fresh blood in order to remain in the hotel and not vanish altogether, and Jay needs to stop them killing again. Maybe love interest Carmella is dead too and just hasn't noticed yet.... I dunno. Just add some conflicting goals and you'll make the plot much more interesting. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26791026.post-5307566169395524012013-01-16T16:01:24.361-05:002013-01-16T16:01:24.361-05:00So, is the critique connected to a weakly-construc...So, is the critique connected to a weakly-constructed synopsis? I think all of your blue-note comments are explained in the novel.John C. Updikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14717474679247050793noreply@blogger.com