Thursday, January 26, 2012

Book Chat 47


In the comments.

An edited version of the chat is posted here.

71 comments:

Evil Editor said...

Welcome to Chatsville.

ril said...

Hello

Evil Editor said...

Wasn't there a guy named Chatsworth on Dobie Gillis?

ril said...

Hold on while I Google Dobie Gillis

Evil Editor said...

Hi. Where are you chatting from?

ril said...

Chatsworth T Osborne Jr, apparently

ril said...

Chatting from a hotel room in NY state.

Evil Editor said...

The rich kid.

Evil Editor said...

What exactly do you do when you're here?

ril said...

Sorry, I've exhausted my knowledge of Dobie Gillis.

Evil Editor said...

You must be really valuable to your employer.

ril said...

Exactly?

ril said...

They like me to show up occasionally.

Evil Editor said...

This is the whole chat. Us.

ril said...

Lucky I read the book, then.

Evil Editor said...

I see this book is compared on the back cover to Caleb Carr's books. Ever read any of his?

ril said...

Nope.

Actually, I think this is the first "detective" yarn I've read.

ril said...

Apart from maybe a couple of Agatha Christies years ago...

ril said...

And, of course, the complete "Alfred Hitchcock and the Three Investigators"

Evil Editor said...

Me neither. This might be my first historical detective yarn. Though I saw The Name of the
Rose.

ril said...

I found it quite entertaining and easy to read.

Surprised it was an award winner, though.

Evil Editor said...

After reading this I read The Yiddish Policemen's Union by Michael Chabon. It was fantastic. Sort of a mystery/alternate history.

ril said...

I don't know if it was because I knew the writer was female, but it took a while to get used to the idea that the narrator was a male detective...

Evil Editor said...

I thought this was well done, though I felt like the guilty party didn't have a big enough role. I felt like I had to go back and see who that was.

ril said...

It seemed to have all the elements I would have expected from the genre. Clever detective, helpful amateur sidekick, multiple potential suspects, lots of red herrings, shirtwaists.

Evil Editor said...

Trying not to give away whodunnit.

ril said...

There was some sleight of hand to hide the "twist" ending.

ril said...

But of course, in the end, you don't have a butler and do the murder yourself, do you?

Evil Editor said...

It seemed to be well researched re the geography of the city.

ril said...

I thought early on the historical detail was a little heavy handed. It was like having a guided tour of a museum: and on the left, you will see a Hammond typewriter, quite typical of the period...

ril said...

Couldn't help imagining Alistair, the criminologist, as the guy at the start of the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Evil Editor said...

The award was for best first novel. Usually people who've had their 1st novel published are only to happy to show up at the book chat. I never got an answer.

ril said...

Very mysterious.

Evil Editor said...

Of course if she showed up and it was two people, she'd have left already.

ril said...

This wasn't her only published novel, though...

ril said...

Not if we tied her to a chair in the crypt.

Evil Editor said...

You should read all four of Alan Bradley's mysteries starring Flavia de Luce. They're hilarious.

ril said...

More to add to the list...

So long as they're available for Kindle!

Evil Editor said...

Who does she think she is? I'm Evil Editor. This is worse than that hockey player who didn't go to the White House.

ril said...

She didn't seem to quite know what to do with Joe.

Made a big deal out of how he resented the up and coming young 'uns subordination and then followed him round like a puppy at the investigation scene.

Then he disappeared for a while. And as soon as he reappeared he had a stroke to get him out of the way again...

Evil Editor said...

That's true. That was set up to be a major source of conflict. Then poof.

ril said...

On the other hand, if he'd stayed around, that might have seemed a tad cliched...

ril said...

After watching the new Sherlock Holmes movie at the weekend, Ziele seemed awfully genteel...

Evil Editor said...

One could attribute the excessive detail to an attempt to write in the style popular at the time the book is set.

Evil Editor said...

Is the movie good? I saw the previous one.

ril said...

Possibly, yes. The voice did slip a little on occasion and there seemed to be a couple of anachronisms of speech, but on the whole she held it up pretty well.

Some Amazon reviews complained of the stilted narrative, but it did feel somewhat authentic to the period.

ril said...

I enjoyed it, yes. It was a "ripping yarn". Moriarty was good.

Guy Ritchie's directing is a little heavy handed sometimes, though.

ril said...

There's also a BBC series showing on PBS at the moment called "Sherlock" which puts the Holmes and Watson characters into a modern setting. That's an entertaining whodunnit, too.

Evil Editor said...

These chats go more efficiently when there are two. I've already said all I had to say. Which, as you may have noted, was pretty much nothing.

Evil Editor said...

Is that right after Downton Abbey?

ril said...

I assume there's potential for Alistair and Simon to solve a few more cases together. So long as Isabella doesn't come between them.

ril said...

Is that right after Downton Abbey?

Not sure. I caught a re-run at like 2 or 3 in the morning.

Evil Editor said...

Are they in her second book?

Evil Editor said...

Ah I see she has three books starring Zeile and Alistair

ril said...

Don't know...

ril said...

Ziele and Mulvaney are...

ril said...

Yes, looks like they all are...

ril said...

Probably needs another three to have a shot at TV...

Maybe a bit slow for American TV, though?

ril said...

British TV loves Whodunnits.

Evil Editor said...

While you're sitting around your hotel tonight doing nothing, write a fake plot for The Star Bear Odyssey.

ril said...

I'll see what I can do...

Evil Editor said...

Yes we like our crime shows set to loud rock music. So loud you can't hear the dialogue.

ril said...

I guess the closed captions cost so much they want everybody to use them?

Evil Editor said...

I'm ready to call it a chat. In fact, I'm ready to call it the last chat.

ril said...

It was a little quiet.

Fun talking, though...

Evil Editor said...

I only use closed caption when I'm watching British whodunnits.

Evil Editor said...

Yes. Much calmer than when there are bunch of people trying to be heard.

Evil Editor said...

Enjoy the rest of your stay.

ril said...

Me too.

You can find out who dun it quicker that way...

ril said...

Have a good evening!

Evil Editor said...

Talk to ya later.