Why you don't get published.
When can we order this?
One of those good, old fairy tales, huh? Cute, Adorably Cute.
So, EE, are the Evil Fairy Tales going to be a writing exercise?:D
I wanna do some Evil Editor fairy tales. That would be a lot of fun.
Anybody fairy tale writers around here been reading Bettelheim comments any any chance?Good one, by the way. So squeaky clean on the outside and all dark and lurky inside. Just the way I like my fairy tales. Straight up, with a twist.
Who's that author, Robin? Always on the lookout.Fairytales are dark, dark things...especially in the original versions. A short story of mine retelling Rapunzel just came out, and it was fun to research the origins of the story. Freaky stuff.(How was that for subtle bragging? A little better than all caps screaming that a journal published my story, right?)The one that freaks me out lately is The Ugly Duckling. Hi four-year-old daughter, let me read you a story about a mother who drove away her child because the child wasn't beautiful.Speaking of needing psychiatrists...sheesh.
Oh, yes, Evil fairy tales would be fun. I would do little Red Robin Hood and the Evil Editor.
Robin, google has shown me that you were already talking about psychologists and fairy tales. My bad ; )
Kiersten, that's how I started writing children's stories. My youngest loved me to read to him, but he liked dinosaurs and animals so we wrote stories about about dinosaurs and a moose on the loose.
I think I'd have a few ideas for an Evil Fairy Tale or two.ME
No biggie. That Bettelheim book is really interesting, Kiersten.
We'll leave "The Princess and the Evil Pea" for Julie, her being so delicate and all.And here's one for Dave: "Putz in Boots."
We'll leave "The Princess and the Evil Pea" for Julie, her being so delicate and all.~Oh, thank you. That's perfect.*gets out her pea shooter*And here's one for Dave: "Putz in Boots."All right, I am still laughing over that.
Robin! Also read the Bettelheim, but I don't think I was chanelling or anything. Maybe? I really like the interweave of folk/fairy/faierie, but I don't recall that he did that much with the Celtic fairy tale. If you would be so kind as to reference?The Evil Little Match MinionGO Wings!ME
"Putz in Boots" sounds like a porn movie. Like "Saving Ryan's Privates" or "Battlestar Orgasmica" or Beavis and Buttkiss" or that favorite "Horton Hears a Ho." Hockey is going into the third overtime. As for fairy tails, uh tales...- Peter the Rabbit died. - Frog and Toad get Rejected.- Red-Cap and Granma's Editor- Hans "Brinker" breaks the Ice. - The Sleeping Manuscript )only published with true love's kiss.- Cinder-Editor - Ali Baba and the Forty Editors.- Mother Goose Eggs the Editor.- Evil Nixes the Editor.- Puss in Boots Hacks up a Bestseller. - The Troll and his Muttonchops.- The Wonderful Wizard of Evilenda.- Hop on Evil.- Horton Hears a No. - How the EE Stole the Grinch's Christmas
The best books I've found about myth and fairy tale themes are Bettelheim's THE USES OF ENCHANTMENT (not that I buy all the Freudian bit, and I know he was a horrible person IRL); Joseph Campbell's THE HERO WITH A THOUSAND FACES; and Shirley Park Lowry's FAMILIAR MYSTERIES: THE TRUTH IN MYTH, which is basically a summary of Campbell for nonspecialists.There is also a wonderful book about Jungian interpretation of Tolkien, which you won't be able to find: THE INDIVIDUATED HOBBIT by Timothy R. O'Neill. The author taught strategy and tactics at West Point, which is why you get a discussion of Smaug considered as an area weapon. But the summary of basic Jungian archetypal theory is excellent.
THE INDIVIDUATED HOBBIT by Timothy R. O'Neill. The author taught strategy and tactics at West Point, which is why you get a discussion of Smaug considered as an area weapon.~Hmmm, I need a good reference book on strategy and tactics. Wonder if he's written anything else.
What was the title of the Bettelheim book?
Hey Freddie:Bruce Bettelheim:The Uses of Enchantment - The Meaning and Importance of Fairy Tales
BRUNO Bettelheim. And there are copies on Amazon for $10
D.V., he's only written a novel about ghosts at West Point, SHADES OF GRAY.
Thanks, Robin and anon!
D.V., he's only written a novel about ghosts at West Point, SHADES OF GRAY.~All right, I obviously need to pay attention. I kept looking through the thread to find out who else was interested in his work. duhMight I remind you, I am not a morsel to be eaten!I did notice that and it probably wouldn't interest me. The premise is intriguing, though. I probably don't need to be buying any more books anyway, until after I get moved. I doubt I will have space for the ones I have.
I really need to get an attitude adjustment. That is the cutest little girl, but that wallpaper is horrific.
Oh, crap. Thanks, anon. Hard day, and one glass of white wine, and I'm calling a Bruno a Bruce.
Julie, you will always be "Dainty Viand" to me...
No problem. Got it on my Amazon wishlist.
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